Move over Mendeleev, here comes the new Mendel

Seeking the islets of Filipenka Henadzi


Keith S. Taber


"new chemical elements with atomic numbers 72-75 and 108-111 are supposedly revealed, and also it is shown that for heavy elements starting with hafnium, the nuclei of atoms contain a larger number of protons than is generally accepted"

Henadzi, 2019, p.2

Somehow I managed to miss a 2019 paper bringing into doubt the periodic table that is widely used in chemistry. It was suggested that many of the heavier elements actually have higher atomic numbers (proton numbers) than had long been assumed, with the consequence that when these elements are correctly re-positioned it reveals two runs of elements that should be in the periodic table, but which till now have not been identified by chemists.

According to Henadzi we need to update the periodic table and look for eight missing elements (original image by Image by Gerd Altmann from Pixabay)

Henadzi (2019) suggests that "I would like to name groups of elements with the numbers 72-75 and 108-111 [that is, those not yet identified that should have these numbers], the islets of Filipenka Henadzi."

The orginal Mendeleev

This is a bit like being taken back to when Dmitri Mendeleev first proposed his periodic table and had the courage to organise elements according to patterns in their properties, even though this left gaps that Mendeleev predicted would be occupied by elements yet to be discovered. The success of (at least some) of his predictions is surely the main reason why he is considered the 'father' of the periodic table, even though others were experimenting with similar schemes.

Now it has been suggested that we still have a lot of work to do to get the periodic table right, and that the version that chemists have used (with some minor variations) for many decades is simply wrong. This major claim (which would surely be considered worthy of the Nobel prize if found correct) was not published in Nature or Science or one of the prestigious chemistry journals published by learned societies such as the Royal Society of Chemistry, but in an obscure journal that I suspect many chemists have never heard of.

The original Mendel

This is reminiscent of the story of Mendel's famous experiments with inheritance in pea plants. Mendel's experiments are now seen as seminal in establishing core ideas of genetics. But Mendel's research was ignored for many years.

He presented his results at meetings of the Natural History Society of Brno in 1865 and then published them in a local German language journal – and his ideas were ignored. Only after other scientists rediscovered 'his' principles in 1900, long after his death, was his work also rediscovered.

Moreover, the discussion of this major challenge to accepted chemistry (and physics if I have understood the paper) is buried in an appendix of a paper which is mostly about the crystal structures of metals. It seems the appendix includes a translation of work previously published in Russian, explaining why, oddly, a section part way through the appendix begins "This article sets out the views on the classification of all known chemical elements, those fundamental components of which the Earth and the entire Universe consists".

Calling out 'predatory' journals

I have been reading some papers in a journal that I believed, on the basis of its misleading title and website details, was an example of a poor-quality 'predatory journal'. That is, a journal which encourages submissions simply to be able to charge a publication fee (currently $1519, according to the website), without doing the proper job of editorial scrutiny. I wanted to test this initial evaluation by looking at the quality of some of the work published.

One of the papers I decided to read, partly because the topic looked of particular interest, was 'Nature of Chemical Elements' (Henadzi, 2019). Most of the paper is concerned with the crystal structures of metals, and presenting a new model to explain why metals have the structure they do. This is related to the number of electrons per atom that can be considered to be in the conduction band – something that was illustrated with a simple diagram that unfortunately, to my reading at least, was not sufficiently elaborated.1

The two options referred to seem to refer to n-type (movement of electrons) and p-type (movement of electrons that can be conceptualised as movement of a {relatively} positive hole, as in semi-conductor materials) – Figure 1 from Henadzi, 2019: p2

However, what really got my attention was the proposal for revising the periodic table and seeking eight new elements that chemists have so far missed.

Beyond Chadwick

Henadzi tells readers that

"The innovation of this work is that in the table of elements constructed according to the Mendeleyev's law and Van-den- Broek's rule [in effect that atomic number in the periodic table = proton number], new chemical elements with atomic numbers 72-75 and 108-111 are supposedly revealed, and also it is shown that for heavy elements starting with hafnium, the nuclei of atoms contain a larger number of protons than is generally accepted. Perhaps the mathematical apparatus of quantum mechanics missed some solutions because the atomic nucleus in calculations is taken as a point."

Henadzi, 2019, p.4

Henadzi explains

"When considering the results of measuring the charges of nuclei or atomic numbers by James Chadwick, I noticed that the charge of the core of platinum is rather equal not to 78, but to 82, which corresponds to the developed table. For almost 30 years I have raised the question of the repetition of measurements of the charges of atomic nuclei, since uranium is probably more charged than accepted, and it is used at nuclear power plants."

Henadzi, 2019, p.4

Now Chadwick is most famous for discovering the neutron – back in 1932. So he was working a long time ago, when atomic theory was still quite underdeveloped and with apparatus that would seem pretty primitive compared with the kinds of set up used today to investigate the fundamental structure of matter. That is, it is hardly surprising if his work which was seminal nearly a century ago had limitations. Henadzi however seems to feel that Chadwick's experiments accurately reveal atomic numbers more effectively than had been realised.

Sadly, Henadzi does not cite any specific papers by Chadwick in his reference list, so it is not easy to look up the original research he is discussing. But if Henadzi is suggesting that data produced almost a century ago can be interpreted as giving some elements different atomic numbers to those accepted today, the obvious question is what other work, since, establishes the accepted values, and why should it not be trusted. Henadzi does not discuss this.

Explaining a long-standing mystery

Henadzi points out that whereas for the lighter elements the mass number is about twice the atomic number (that is, the number of neutrons in a nucleus approximately matches the number of protons) as one proceeds through the period table this changes such the ratio of protons:neutrons shifts to give an increasing excess of neutrons. Henadzi also implies that this is a long standing mystery, now perhaps solved.

"Each subsequent chemical element is different from the previous in that in its core the number of protons increases by one, and the number of neutrons increases, in general, several. In the literature this strange ratio of the number of neutrons to the number of protons for any the kernel is not explained. The article proposes a model nucleus, explaining this phenomenon."

Henadzi, 2019, p.5

Now what surprised me here was not the pattern itself (something taught in school science) but the claim that the reason was not known. My, perhaps simplistic, understanding is that protons repel each other because of their similar positive electrical charges, although the strong nuclear force binds nucleons (i.e., protons and neutrons collectively) into nuclei and can overcome this.

Certainly what is taught in schools is that as the number of protons increases more neutrons are needed to be mixed in to ensure overall stability. Now I am aware that this is very much an over-simplification, what we might term a curriculum model or teaching model perhaps, but what Henadzi is basically suggesting seems to be this very point, supplemented by the idea that as the protons repel each other they are usually found at the outside of the nucleus alongside an equal number of neutrons – with any additional neutrons within.

The reason for not only putting protons on the outer shell of a large nucleus in Henadzi's model seems to relate to the stability of alpha particles (that is, clumps of two protons and two neutrons, as in the relatively stable helium nucleus). Or, at least, that was my reading of what is being suggested,

"For the construction of the [novel] atomic nucleus model, we note that with alpha-radioactivity of the helium nucleus is approximately equal to the energy.

Therefore, on the outer layer of the core shell, we place all the protons with such the same number of neutrons. At the same time, on one energy Only bosons can be in the outer shell of the alpha- particle nucleus and are. Inside the Kernel We will arrange the remaining neutrons, whose task will be weakening of electrostatic fields of repulsion of protons."

Henadzi, 2019, p.5

The lack of proper sentence structure does not help clarify the model being mooted.

Masking true atomic number

Henadzi's hypothesis seems to be that when protons are on the surface of the nucleus, the true charge, and so atomic number, of an element can be measured. But sometimes with heavier elements some of the protons leave the surface for some reason and move inside the nucleus where their charge is somehow shielded and missed when nuclear charge is measured. This is linked to the approximation of assuming that the charge on an object measured from the outside can be treated as a point charge.

This is what Henadzi suggests:

"Our nuclear charge is located on the surface, since the number of protons and the number of neutrons in the nucleus are such that protons and neutrons should be in the outer layer of the nucleus, and only neutrons inside, that is, a shell forms on the surface of the nucleus. In addition, protons must be repelled, and also attracted by an electronic fur coat. The question is whether the kernel can be considered a point in the calculations and up to what times? And the question is whether and when the proton will be inside the nucleus….if a proton gets into the nucleus for some reason, then the corresponding electron will be on the very 'low' orbit. Quantum mechanics still does not notice such electrons. Or in other words, in elements 72-75 and 108-111, some protons begin to be placed inside the nucleus and the charge of the nucleus is screened, in calculations it cannot be taken as a point."

Henadzi, 2019, p.5

So, I think Henadzi is suggesting that if a proton gets inside the nucleus, its associated electron is pulled into a very close orbit such that what is measured as nuclear charge is the real charge on the nucleus (the number of protons) partially cancelled by low lying electrons orbiting so close to the nucleus that they are within what we might call 'the observed nucleus'.

This has some similarity to the usual idea of shielding that leads to the notion of core charge. For example, a potassium atom can be modelled simplistically for some purposes as a single electron around a core charge of plus one (+19-2-8-8) as, at least as a first approximation, we can treat all the charges within the outermost N (4th) electron shell (the 19 protons and 18 electrons) as if a single composite charge at the centre of the atom. 2

Dubious physics

Whilst I suspect that the poor quality of the English and the limited detail included in this appendix may well mean I am missing part of the argument here, I am not convinced. Besides the credibility issue (how can so many scientists have missed this for so long?) which should never be seen as totally excluding unorthodox ideas (the same thing could have been asked about most revolutionary scientific breakthroughs) my understanding is that there are already some quite sophisticated models of nuclear structure which have evolved alongside programmes of emprical research and which are therefore better supported than Henadzi's somewhat speculative model.

I must confess to not understanding the relevance of the point charge issue as this assumption/simplification would seem to work with Henadzi's model – from well outside the sphere defined by the nucleus plus low lying electrons the observed charge would be the net charge as if located at a central point, so the apparent nuclear charge would indeed be less than the true nuclear charge.

But my main objection would be the way electrostatic forces are discussed and, in particular, two features of the language:

Naked protons

protons must be repelled, and also attracted by an electronic fur coat…

I was not sure what was meant by "protons must be repelled, and also attracted by an electronic fur coat". The repulsion between protons in the nucleus is balanced by the strong nuclear force – so what is this electronic 'fur coat'?

This did remind me of common alternative conceptions that school students (who have not yet learned about nuclear forces) may have, along the lines that a nucleus is held together because the repulsion between protons is balanced by their attraction to the ('orbiting') electrons. Two obvious problems with this notion are that

  • the electrons would be attracting protons out of the nucleus just as they are repelling each other (that is, these effects reinforce, not cancel), and
  • the protons are much closer to each other than to the electrons, and the magnitude of force between charges diminishes with distance.

Newton's third law and Coulomb's law would need to be dis-applied for an electronic effect to balance the protons' mutual repulsions. (On Henadzi's model the conjectured low lying electrons are presumably orbiting much closer to the nucleus than the 1s electrons in the K shell – but, even so, the proton-electron distance will be be much greater than the separation of protons in the nucleus.)3

But I may have misunderstood what Henadzi's meant here by the attraction of the fur coat and its role in the model.

A new correspondence principle?

if a proton gets into the nucleus for some reason, then the corresponding electron will be on the very 'low' orbit

Much more difficult to explain away is the suggestion that "if a proton gets into the nucleus for some reason, then the corresponding electron will be on the very 'low' orbit". Why? This is not explained, so it seems assumed readers will simply understand and agree.

In particular, I do not know what is meant by 'the corresponding electron'. This seems to imply that each proton in the nucleus has a corresponding electron. But electrons are just electrons, and as far as a proton is concerned, one electron is just like any other. All of the electrons attract, and are attracted by, all of the protons.

Confusing a teaching scheme for a mechanism?

This may not always be obvious to school level students, especially when atomic structure is taught through some kind of 'Aufbau' scheme where we add one more proton and one more electron for each consecutive element's atomic structure. That is, the hydrogen atom comprises of a proton and its 'corresponding' electron, and in moving on to helium we add another proton, with its 'corresponding' electron and some neutrons. These correspond only in the sense that to keep the atom neutral we have to add one negative charge for each positive charge. They 'correspond' in a mental accounting scheme – but not in any physical sense.

That is a conceptual scheme meant to do pedagogic work in 'building up' knowledge – but atoms themselves are just systems of fundamental particles following natural laws and are not built up by the sequential addition of components selected from some atomic construction kit. We can be misled into mistaking a pedagogic model designed to help students understand atomic structure for a representation of an actual physical process. (The nuclei of heavy elements are created in the high-energy chaos inside a star – within the plasma where it is too hot for them to capture the electrons needed to form neutral atoms.)

A similar category error (confusing a teaching scheme for a mechanism) often occurs when teachers and textbook authors draw schemes of atoms combining to form molecules (e.g., a methane molecule formed from a carbon atom and four hydrogen atoms) – it is a conceptual system to work with the psychological needs for students to have knowledge built up in manageable learning quanta – but such schemes do not reflect viable chemical processes.4

It is this kind of thinking that leads to students assuming that during homolytic bond fission each atom gets its 'own' electron back. It is not so much that this is not necessarily so, as that the notion of one of the electrons in a bond belonging to one of the atoms is a fiction.

The conservation of force conception (an alternative conception)

When asked about ionisation of atoms it is common for students to suggest that when an electron is removed from an atom (or ion) the remaining electrons are attracted more strongly because the force for the removed electron gets redistributed. It is as if within an atom each proton is taking care of attracting one electron. In this way of thinking a nucleus of a certain charge gives rise to a certain amount of force which is shared among the electrons. Removing an electron means a greater share of the force for those remaining. This all seems intuitive enough to many learners despite being at odds with basic physical principles (Taber, 1998).

I am not deducing that Henadzi, apparently a retired research scientist, shares these basic misconceptions found among students. Perhaps that is the case, but I would not be so arrogant as to diagnose this just from the quoted text. But that is my best understanding of the argument in the paper. If that is not what is meant, then I think the text needs to be clearer.

The revolution will not be televised…

In conclusion, this paper, published in what is supposedly a research journal, is unsatisfactory because (a) it makes some very major claims that if correct are extremely significant for chemistry and perhaps also physics, but (b) the claims are tucked away in an appendix, are not fully explained and justified, and do not properly cite work referred to; and the text is sprinkled with typographic errors, and seems to reflect alternative conceptions of basic science.

I very much suspect that Henadzi's revolutionary ideas are just wrong and should rightly be ignored by the scientific community, despite being published in what claims to be a peer-reviewed (self-describing 'leading international') research journal.

However, perhaps Henadzi's ideas may have merit – the peer reviewers and editor of the journal presumably thought so – in which case they are likely to be ignored anyway because the claims are tucked away in an appendix, are not fully explained and justified, and do not properly cite work referred to; and the text is sprinkled with typographic errors, and seems to reflect alternative conceptions of basic science. In this case scientific progress will be delayed (as it was when Mendel's work was missed) because of the poor presentation of revolutionary ideas.

How does the editor of a peer-reviewed journal move to a decision to publish in 4 days?
Let down by poor journal standards

So, either way, I do not criticise Henadzi for having and sharing these ideas – healthy science encompasses all sorts of wild ideas (some of which turn out not to have been so wild as first assumed) which are critiqued, tested, and judged by the community. However, Henadzi has not been well supported by the peer review process at the journal. Even if peer reviewers did not spot some of the conceptual issues that occurred to me, they should surely have noticed the incompleteness of the argument or at the very least the failures of syntax. But perhaps in order to turn the reviews around so quickly they did not read the paper carefully. And perhaps that is how the editor, Professor Nour Shafik Emam El-Gendy of the Egyptian Petroleum Research Institute, was able to move to a decision to publish four days after submission.5

If there is something interesting behind this paper, it will likely be missed because of the poor presentation and the failure of peer review to support the author in sorting the problems that obscure the case for the proposal. And if the hypothesis is as flawed as it seems, then peer review should have prevented it being published until a more convincing case could be made. Either way, this is another example of a journal rushing to publish something without proper scrutiny and concern for scientific standards.


Works cited

Footnotes:

1 My understanding of the conduction band in a metal is that due to the extensive overlap of atomic orbitals, a great many molecular orbitals are formed, mostly being quite extensive in scope ('delocalised'), and occurring with a spread of energy levels that falls within an energy band. Although strictly the molecular orbitals are at a range of different levels, the gaps between these levels are so small that at normal temperatures the 'thermal energy' available is enough for electrons to readily move between the orbitals (whereas in discrete molecules, with a modest number of molecular orbitals available, transitions usually require absorption of higher energy {visible or more often} ultraviolet radiation). So, this spread of a vast number of closely spaced energy levels is in effect a continuous band.

Given that understanding I could not make sense of these schematic diagrams. They SEEM to show the number of conduction electrons in the 'conduction band' as being located on, and moving around, a single atom. But I may be completely misreading this – as they are meant to be (cross sections through?) a tube.

"we consider a strongly simplified one- dimensional case of the conduction band. Option one: a thin closed tube, completely filled with electrons except one. The diameter of the electron is approximately equal to the diameter of the tube. With such a filling of the zone, with the local movement of the electron, there is an opposite movement of the "place" of the non-filled tube, the electron, that is, the motion of a non-negative charge. Option two: in the tube of one electron – it is possible to move only one charge – a negatively charged electron"

Henadzi, 2019, p.2

2 The shell model is a simplistic model, and for many purposes we need to use more sophisticated accounts. For example, the electrons are not strictly in concentric shells, and electronic orbitals 'interpenetrate' – so an electron considered to be in the third shell of an atom will 'sometimes' be further from the nucleus than an electron considered to be in the fourth shell. That is, a potassium 4s electron cannot be assumed to be completely/always outside of a sphere in which all the other atomic electrons (and the nucleus) are contained, so the the core cannot be considered as a point charge of +1 at the nucleus, even if this works as an approximation for some purposes. The effective nuclear charge from the perspective of the 4s electron will strictly be more than +1 as the number of shielding electrons is somewhat less than 18.

3 Whilst the model of electrons moving around the nucleus in planetary orbits may have had some heuristic value in the development of atomic theory, and may still be a useful teaching model at times (Taber, 2013), it seems it is unlikely to have the sophistication to support any further substantive developments to chemical theory.

4 It is very common for learners to think of chemistry in terms of atoms – e.g., to think of atoms as starting points for reactions; to assume that ions must derive from atoms. This way of thinking has been called the atomic ontology.

5 I find it hard to believe that any suitably qualified and conscientious referees would not raise very serious issues about this manuscript precluding publication in the form it appears in the journal. If the journal really does use peer review, as is claimed, one has to wonder who they think suitable to act as expert reviewers, and how they persuade them to write their reports so quickly.

Based on this, and other papers appearing in the journal, I suspect one of the following:

a) peer review does not actually happen, or

b) peer review is assigned to volunteers who are not experts in the field, and so are not qualified to be 'peers' in the sense intended when we talk of academic peer review, or

c) suitable reviewers are appointed, but instructed to do a very quick but light review ignoring most conceptual, logical, technical and presentation issues as long as the submission is vaguely on topic, or

di) appropriate peer reviewers are sought, but the editor does not expect authors to address reviewer concerns before approving publication, or possibly

dii) decisions to publish sub-standard work are made by administrators without reference to the peer reviews and the editor's input

Author: Keith

Former school and college science teacher, teacher educator, research supervisor, and research methods lecturer. Emeritus Professor of Science Education at the University of Cambridge.

13 thoughts on “Move over Mendeleev, here comes the new Mendel”

  1. Dear Keith Taber, thanks for writing.
    If you want, we can talk a little more about my work. So you started with a picture with a table of elements. It is wrong because after lanthanum is hafnium. Hafnium and the elements following it should be one line below, which is indicated by changes in atomic weights throughout the table. In the initial periodic table, after lanthanum, there was cerium. Who put hafnium like this and when? Agree that if the arrangement of the elements was done as in Mendeleev's, then there would be questions about such a table. Second. If there is an explanation in the literature on the number of neutrons in the nuclei of atoms, please let me know.
    Third. I also did not find convincing evidence about the nature of the formation of crystal lattices.
    Sorry for the translation via Google translator.
    Sincerely Henadzi Filipenka

    1. Dear Henadzi Filipenka

      Firstly, I apologise if I have rendered your name incorrectly in the blog – I was using the form as published in the journal (‘Filipenka Henadzi’) which would make the citation Henadzi (2019), but perhaps it should really be Filipenka (2019)?

      GoogleTranslate is far from perfect, but is a very useful tool – and I have found it very helpful – so please do not apologise for that. [Added. On reflection, I think you may be referring to the problems of the breakdown of sentence structure I highlight in the published paper? Of course it is understood how authors who do not have English as a main language may be challenged in producing clear English. However, I struggle to understand how the editor, peer reviewers, and production staff at the journal (to the extent they actually read the text) could have not noticed this, and pointed out problems to you for you to correct and so improve the paper before publication. That is part of their role.]

      I will respond about the nuclear stability issue a little later, but wanted to let you see I had approved your comment.

      Keith

    2. Dear Henadzi (if I may?)

      I was referring to the treatment that I was familiar with when a school teacher. This was a 'curriculum model' which I am aware is very much a simplification. In particular, it was a purely qualitative, descriptive account, whereas the treatments in the literature are highly mathematical.

      Despite that, to the best of my knowledge, it is (in Jerome Bruner's term) 'intellectually honest' in that it provides learners with an 'entry level' account which reflects key features of the science and is suitable for developing into more sophisticated accounts (more sophisticated both in terms of concepts not yet available to school age learners, and being largely quantitative).

      On this simplistic account, protons repel each other because they are all positively charged. The more protons packed into a nucleus, the greater the repulsions that would tend to lead to the nucleus spontaneously breaking up (i.e., in the absence of any other factor).

      However, the strong nuclear force provides a very short range attraction between nucleons. Protons will therefore be attracted to, and attracted by, neutrons and indeed protons that they are very close to. The stability of a nucleus therefore depends upon a balance between repulsions (electrostatic) and attractions (the strong interaction/force). [This can be compared to the stability of an atom – the electrons repel each other, but remain part of the atom because there is a balancing attraction force from the nucleus].

      As the repulsions tend to increase with the number of protons in a nucleus but without regard to the neutral neutrons, but the strong interaction is blind to electrostatic charge, the ratio of neutrons to protons in stable nuclides increases with atomic number. The neutrons can be thought of as getting between protons to some extent, and so diluting the electrostatic repulsion between them, whilst attracting them through their strong interaction. *

      Now, that is very much an entry level account which does not go into the nature of the strong force (exchange particles, role in binding quarks into the nucleons). It also ignores models of nuclear structure where it has long been hypothesised that certain combinations of nucleons (such as, but not just, 2p+2n unit of the alpha particle/He nucleus) have particular stability and may conceptualised as sub-units of nuclei; and ideas about 'shells' of nucleons within large nuclei. I am aware of these ideas, without claiming any expertise. I believe there the primary literature contains both theoretical accounts of nuclear structure models and various related experimental studies.

      That does not mean your model is wrong, but it seems from my reading of your paper that it is largely an intuitive conjecture. Such imaginative intuitions have proved extremely valuable in relatively new or unexplored areas of science in setting up hypotheses that can then be tested. My point (intended as a criticism of the journal) is that I would expect a peer reviewer to suggest that your model should not be published in a research paper unless you had at least motivated it for a reader by a brief review of the extensive research literature on nuclear structure and shown how your model links to the empirical findings from scattering experiments and the like, and given a strong argument for why the existing models are inadequate, and your model better fits the data. If you had been able to respond to such (counterfactual) peer review challenges then you contribution would have made a case that those working in that field might feel they should address. But because it does not engage with the current state of knowledge in the field, it will surely be ignored (and indeed in that sense deserves to be ignored by those working in this area).

      From outside the process it seems the editor and peer reviewers simply have not done the job of helping your produce a paper which was likely to have impact. My sense is that whatever peer review reports you received, these must have been pretty insubstantial.

      (I do not know if you would care to share your experience – did you think that the peer reviewers closely scrutinised your submission? Did they offer challenging comments, and ask for substantive changes? You are of course entitled to keep those reports confidential, but if you are happy to share, I for one would be VERY interested in what the peer review reports said.)

      * I found a historical paper from 1936 where Han Bethe and a colleague are going into considerable detail of the nature of the attractive forces that must be holding nuclei together. They can be seen to predict the strong interaction:

      “For the light elements, up to about argon, this relation [between atomic weight and nuclear charge] is very simple indeed. The atomic weights are very nearly twice as large as the nuclear charge, e.g., C12, N14, 0 16, etc. Therefore the number of neutrons N = A -Z in any of these light nuclei is approximately equal to the number of protons Z.

      This experimental rule must be interpreted as showing that the largest attractive forces in the nucleus are forces between neutrons and protons. If this were not the case, e.g., if two neutrons would attract each other more strongly than a neutron and a proton, the most stable nuclei would obviously be composed exclusively of neutrons…the force between two neutrons must be nearly equal to that between two protons, leaving out the electrostatic repulsion between the latter.…

      the relative importance of the electrostatic forces increases with increasing atomic weight, roughly as A [to the power of] 2/3.

      The consequences of this are twofold: Firstly, we shall obtain for heavier nuclei a deviation from the rule N=Z, in the sense that stable nuclei contain fewer protons than neutrons, because the replacement of a proton by a neutron decreases the electrostatic repulsion and thus the total energy of the nucleus. This effect is well-known experimentally: The ratio N/Z, i.e., number of neutrons to number of protons, number of particles, rather than that on the increases from 1 for light nuclei gradually to 1.6 for uranium.” (p.92-6)

      So, the usual explanation for the pattern of ‘the number of neutrons in the nuclei of atoms’ has been around, at least in general form, for many decades.

      Reference: Bethe, H. A., & Bacher, R. F. (1936). Nuclear physics A. Stationary states of nuclei. Reviews of Modern Physics, 8(2), 82.

      1. Dear Keith,
        I needed to somehow explain the atomic weights of the "new" 72-75 elements, which I was forced to introduce in order not to spoil the developed physical table of elements. If the number of electrons and protons was clear, I had to work with neutrons. And since I am not a nuclear physicist, then it turned out what happened. I proceeded from the assumption that there is more order in the nuclei of heavy elements than in light ones. And with some accuracy I got that if the nucleus consists of a shell of alpha particles, then the rest of the neutrons are located inside it. The sum of internal neutrons and neutrons from the shell is their number for heavy and medium-gravity nuclei. The calculation was the most primitive, he took protons and neutrons as identical balls, which he placed in a large ball (nucleus). You are surprised how you missed my article in print. I think the main achievement is that I found the dependence of the type of the crystal lattice on the outer electrons of the atoms.
        https://ext-4373742.livejournal.com/1273.html

  2. Let's start with the fact that wherever we take out lanthanides and actinides, and hafnium and the elements following it should be located in their places, on the line below. Incorrect element table provided.

    1. Dear Henadzi

      The periodic table figure I included is a version of the one that is generally used by chemists today (that is, the periodc table most people will be familiar with), and on it I added some notes to show which parts/aspects I think you are challenging.

      In terms of the canonical periodic table, I hope I showed (i) where your aasumed new elements would fit into the atomic progression, and (ii) which elements would have been given the wrong atomic numbers according to your system.

      Please feel free to add a comment with a link to your version of the periodic table so anyone interested can check this out. I did not think your version of the periodic table was included in your paper, or I would have reproduced it in the posting.

      However there is a grid/table on p.4 of your paper which does not seem to have been given a table number or any kind of heading/legend.

      Perhaps that is your version?

      But, if so, you have put sodium (Na) in a DIFFERENT group to potassium (K), rubidium (Rb),etc., … rather with copper (Cu), silver (Ag),etc. … and fluorine (F) is no longer in the same group as the other halogens, but now grouped with cobalt (Co)?

      1. Dear Keith,
        I have always been interested in changes in crystal lattices depending on temperature. In addition, I grew single crystals of yttrium iron garnet when I was young. Therefore, I thought a lot about the properties of different elements and as a result gave birth to just such a table about which you wrote to me. Physical table of elements. I built a table of elements according to the charges of their nuclei. Therefore, this is how fluorine and sodium are located in this table. You can see my reasoning on the classification of chemical elements here. https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5ff97bc2aed88a7c9be811b5/table-of-chemical-elements-constructed-according-to-the-charges-of-atomic-nuclei-5ffad662bb14d54ffb3cdf18 Sincerely Henadzi

        1. Dear Henadzi

          If I understand correctly, your reassigning of atomic numbers to the heavier elements depends upon the accepted nuclear charges being incorrect, which you explain through a kind of shielding effect. So, I wondered about mass spectroscopy where the mass:charge ratio is revealed by the extent of deflection of accelerated charges in a magnetic field. Are you suggesting that even in the context of the mass spectroscope, these (what have been assumed to be) heavier nuclei are actually complexes of nuclei plus (four or eight) electrons in energy levels that are much lower than the lowest energy level allowed by conventional quantum mechanics?

          Keith

          1. Dear Keith,
            I can only assume that the seventy-second electron of the 72nd element should be located at lower levels compared to the outer ones, since the seventy-second proton replaces the neutron inside the nucleus. Based on my constructions. Therefore, the chemical properties of 72-75 elements will be the same as that of lutetium. In hafnium and in the elements following it, the nuclear charge increases by 4 units. It is interesting to look at the uranium decay curve into fragments. Uranium92 decays into barium and krypton. From uranium96 it is possible to derive the same barium and zirconium or lanthanum and yttrium, which lie closer to the maxima of the curve than barium and krypton or lanthanum and bromine … the same ash, but more consistent with the distribution curve of fragments with the same chemical composition … OF THESE EXAMPLES I CHECKED THE CORRECT CHARGE OF THE NUCLEUS OF A URANIUM ATOM equal to 96

            1. Dear Henadzi

              You write “I can only assume that the seventy-second electron of the 72nd element should be located at lower levels compared to the outer ones, since the seventy-second proton replaces the neutron inside the nucleus.”

              Even if the additional proton was inside the nucleus instead of on an outer shell (i.e., if we accept your unconventional model that in elements 1-71 all the nuclei have a structure with all the protons on the outside) I do not see why this would make more than a very minor difference to electronic structure. Given the difference in scale of the nucleus compared to the scale of the typical nucleus-electron distance in atomic orbitals (i.e., something like 5 orders of magnitude), even if you do not accept that the nuclear charge can be treated as a point charge at the centre, this would make a negligible difference in electrostatic terms. The electronic structure would still be virtually the same regardless of where the protons are in the nucleus.

              One could disagree if one thought (contra conventional wisdom) that somehow the proton’s charge was being shielded by being inside the nucleus – but in that case the atomic orbitals would become LARGER*, not smaller, as the effective nuclear charge would be smaller and so the electrons would not be as tightly bound.

              [*Arguably orbital size is a vague idea as atomic orbitals can be infinitely large in the trivial sense that the probability of finding an electron in an orbital only strictly falls to zero at an infinite distance from the nucleus; but in terms of the most likely nucleus-electron distances / Bohr radii, an atom with a nuclear charge of +72, but effective nuclear charge of +71, would have electrons further from the nucleus, on average, than one where the full nuclear charge was ‘felt’ (so to speak) by the electrons.]

              So, even if I put aside some very widely accepted principles that are in keeping with a great deal of experimental evidence, I cannot see what basis there would be to make the assumption.

              Science proceeds through people having ideas and these being criticised, and those criticisms responded to, et cetera… Certainly that can occur post-publication, but when a manuscript presents an argument which at face value seems contrary to so many widely accepted scientific principles and models (Coulomb’s law, the periodic law, Aufbau, shell model of nuclear structure…) one would expect these issues to be raised in peer review, and the author asked to address them explicitly, so that should the paper be published then the argument made is buttressed against the most obvious objections (which would otherwise tend to lead to the paper simply being rejected and ignored by many readers).

              I do not know what peer review comments you may have received to help you finalise the paper, or what level of revisions (if any!), you were asked to complete by the journal, but the peer review process is supposed to raise any obvious objections so that the published paper already anticipates and responds to these. My point in the posting was that if I can spot and raise these kinds of questions (i.e., as a science teacher, but never having been a research chemist or physicist), then expert reviewers from the field certainly should have done so, and the final paper, if it was published, should have have included responses to these objections.

              I should not really be qualified to argue the case with the author of research paper outside my own field of expertise (science education) that is published in “an international peer reviewed journal”.

              Best wishes
              Keith

              1. Dear Keith,
                You doubt my reasoning on the seventy-second electron. Let's take cerium, the nucleus of which is the same as that of all the previous elements (from my constructions, its shell consists of alpha particles inside and there are neutrons inside it) and it can be taken as a point. The distribution of electrons for a single cerium atom is … Ce- 1s2, 2s2, 2p6, 3s2, 3p6, 4s2, 3d10, 4p6, 5s2, 4d10, 5p6, 6s2, 4f2 …
                I have a counter question, if for the nucleus of the point after 6s2 4f2 is filled, then why for the nucleus (not quite the point) the filling with the seventy-second electron should obey general laws? You think that my article was published by accident. However, it seems to me that if a question is raised that has only been partially investigated in science, then its coverage from different sides should be welcomed. In my article, an attempt was made to explain the nature of the formation of crystal lattices in metals. You can read here- https://ext-4373742.livejournal.com/1273.html
                Best regards
                Henadzi

              2. Dear Henadzi

                Sorry, I am not sure that I understand your question.

                If you are asking why the same quantum rules operate for element 72 as for elements 1-71 then I can only say that I am not seeing any reason why the fundamental rules would change at that point. You seem (if I have understood) to suddenly at this point in the elemental progression want to introduce an orbital before 1s (i.e., lower in energy that the first allowed principal q.n., n=1) – and I do not understand why.

                Whether we should really describe multi-electron systems in terms of hydrogenic orbitals (the familiar 1s, 2s, 2p, etc orbitals as derived for a single electron system like H, He+ etc.) has long been a moot point in the chem. ed. literature. However, regardless of how we describe the system, I do not understand why you see a major discontinuity in atomic electronic structures at this point. Even if your non-canonical model of the atomic nucleus is correct, I do not think that would make any substantial difference to the electronic structure.

                I do not think your paper was published by accident. I think this journal is a disgrace because it claims to be a proper research journal but is clearly not one (read about my reasons for saying this at https://science-education-research.com/not-a-leading-international-journal/ ). It claims to use peer review. Perhaps it does. But if qualified peer reviewers are consulted and the editor is basing decisions about if and when to publish on reports from qualified reviewers, none of the papers I surveyed should have been published in the form they were (and at least some of them should not have been published at all).

                If the publishers wanted to have a magazine and invite people to publish their ideas at a cost, and they were honest about it, I would have no problem with that. It is their dishonesty that really irks me. (Not from the authors, or at least most of them: they seem to be attempting to produce serious work.) This publication misrepresents itself as a ‘leading international journal’ (a claim it made before it had ever published a singe article) and puts out ‘research articles’ and claims to have peer review.

                I have not submitted to this supposed journal (despite being invited to do so, and asked to join the Board). You have. You know
                (a) whether you received referee reports after submission;
                (b) whether those reports seemed to reflect expertise at a level expected of an international research journal;
                (c) what revisions were recommended by any referees;
                (d) what revisions the editor actually asked you to carry out before the work could be published;
                (e) whether there were further rounds of review, or whether any revisions were simply accepted immediately;
                (f) (assuming your were actually provided with galley proofs) the level of production editing, and the number of ‘author queries’ raised with the proofs showing someone was checking your text and looking to identify any typographical/syntactic errors or points of confusion that needed addressing.

                You are an experienced scientist – I am sure you know what the process of getting work through review can be like.

                What I do know is that – according to the journal – the decision to publish came four days after you submitted the manuscript. So I suspect there was no substantial meaningful review process – but perhaps you will tell me I am wrong.

                So, I do not think publication was an accident at all. On the contrary, I think it was very deliberate. I think you submitted work to the journal in good faith, and they published it under the pretense that it had been through rigorous editorial and peer review.

                Please note, for me these are two very different issues. I think your work is not convincing due to the reservations I have shared BUT I am an educator, and not an expert in the topic. There are much better qualified people than me to argue these points. I raised those issues though because I wanted to call out the poor practices of the journal. I wish you all the best and of course you have every right to develop and publicise your work.

                The journal however, is parasitic on the academic community, and if I can warn scholars about it and encourage them to avoid it, I feel I will have done something useful.

                Best wishes
                Keith

              3. Dear Keith,
                Thank you for message. Excuse me, but I do not want to discuss the publication policy of this magazine and others.
                Sincerely Henadzi

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